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HTPC get – The ION unleashed

February 5th, 2010 hikky Leave a comment Go to comments

 

After three weeks I’m finally able to write about my HTPC building process. Was a little bit delayed because of a shipment fail and a slow parcel service, but since yesterday it’s finally completely finished.

 

Bunch of boxes get! Now let’s take a look at the components:

 

ZOTAC ION ITX-A mainboard

- Intel Atom N330: 2×1.6 GHz, hyper threading, 8W TDP

- up to 4GB DDR2 6400

- GeForce 9400 IGP: DX10, max. 512MB shared memory, CUDA capable

- Wifi 802.11b/g/n

- 90W power supply

- external: 1x VGA, 1x DVI, 1x HDMI, 6x USB 2.0, 1x Gb LAN, 1x eSATA, 5.1 Audio, 1x PS/2

- internal: 4x USB 2.0, 3x SATA II RAID 0/1/0+1, 1x PCIe Mini Card

 

Inside the box you will find:

- CPU heat sink fan

- I/O back plate

- 3x SATA cables

- 1x SATA power connector (for 3 SATA devices)

- WIFI antenna

- Manual, driver CD, ZOTAC sticker, Quick install leaflet, a rori, some packaging material

 

- and the 90W external power brick. Just like from a random laptop.

 

Size comparison (CPU fan and RAM already installed): ITX is really compact. There are already Socket-1156 ITX boards out there which means you could build a really compact Core i7 machine too. Quite funny considering what kind of main boards were needed just to get a small amount of that power just a few years ago.

 

The rest of the internal components (a few more are actually built into the system now but more about that later):

- Western Digital Caviar Green 750GB, 32MB Cache, 5400rpm-7200rpm (WD7500AADS)

- Vivanco High Quality HDMI 1.3 cable

- LiteOn iHOS104, Bluray drive

- Kingston 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHz CL6 (KVR800D2N6/2G)

 

And of course the case housing all of those parts: The LianLi PC-Q07

(LianLi is the Aston Martin among PC cases for those not familiar with the name.)

 

Some product details in this quite gay sounding product video:

Ährm, yah sorry but I don’t want to make love with the case…

 

Comes with all accessories needed to mount components inside the case.

 

LogiLink Wireless Desktop 2.4 GHz (ID0013): Yah, it’s not a Logitech diNovo Mini but thanks to that it costs only 18€. Works well even from over 10m away. (Unlike some more expensive Microsoft wireless desktops which fail at 1,5m distance).

 

 

Now let’s put that thing together. How hard can it be?

Installation of the motherboard is easy as you can unmount the left side panel of the case too.

 

But after placing the Bluray drive inside the 5,25” bay I came across the first problem:

As Zotac used default SATA connectors the connector barely fitted. The SATA connector didn’t fit at all. Luckily I had some angled SATA connectors from my main machines ASUS main board lying around.

Mounting the hardisk is quite stress free. You just have to use those rubberized screws , screw them into the HDD…

 

… and place the hard disk on the hard disk bay. An easy, vibration preventing system.

 

Unfortunately the SATA power cable is nearly too short here too. The guy who came up with the length for those cables deserves to be punched in the face in my opinion. And the “I never heard of angled SATA connectors” guy too of course.

 

HTPC Revision 1.0 ready to launch:

 

… and lift off, SSMEs throttling up to 104%, igniting SRBs, all system working, so far so good.

 

Installed Windows 7 Ultimate (x64). Everything worked out of the box but I installed the newest drivers of course. Updated the BIOS and increased the framebuffer size from 256MB to 512MB which is necessary to use CUDA.

 

But there were two problems:

The stock CPU fan was quite noise and running at 3000RPM without a possibility to control it. The temperatures where around 60°C.

 

Replaced the stock fan with a SilenX iXtrema Pro (60×60x25mm, 1600rpm, 16.89m³/h, 8dB(A) (IXP-34-08)) and attached a Scythe Slip Stream (120×120x25mm, 500rpm, 41.6m³/h, 7.5dB(A) (SY1225SL12SL)) at the back to get the warm air out of the case.

 

That’s how Revision 1.1 looks like:

The case wasn’t designed to mount a fan at the back but works quite well by using the grill next to the I/O shield. To cover the hole (designed for a full size PSU) and to secure the other side of the fan, I used some perforated metal plate from an old speaker cover. ^^; The while system is cooler now and completely silent (The only part you would notice right next to the case would be the harddisk.)

 

You might notice the second RAM DIMM in the picture above too. My HTPC has now 4GB RAM. Why?

Because 1080p playback wasn’t smooth with MPC-HC and CoreAVC 2.0. Surprisingly it was way better with the integrated DXVA decoder (a GPU using decoder included in Windows).

I ordered a second 2GB RAM DIMM and playback is now smooth by using DXVA. CoreAVC still lags so I uninstalled it right away.

Maybe the 2GB RAM running in single channel mode was a bottle neck? Not so sure about that, as this is my first integrated graphics card. Any ideas?

 

Playback of 1080p material with CoreAVC:

Uses more GPU and more CPU which leads to higher temperatures but the playback isn’t that smooth.

 

Playback of 1080p material with DXVA:

Smooth playback, lower usage of system resources (besides the memory which isn’t that important in that case)  and for free. The way to go on Windows for now.

A detailed guide on how to configure MPC to use DVXA can be found here: http://nunnally.ahmygoddess.net/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/

 

Watching 1080p stuff since a few days now on the TV. Really awesome as I used to watch HD movies on my PC monitors since many years. But 52” > 24”

Bluray playback works great too using TotalMedia Theatre 3 Platinum. Way better than PowerDVD which became some sort of spam filled crap. TotalMedia Theatre uses CUDA too and even uses it’s power to upscale DVDs to 1080p. Integrates itself into the Windows Media Center software too.

 

Speaking of Blurays: Looks like a GITS Bluray set (contains GITS 2.0 and GITS Innocence) fell from the ceiling lately.

 

So yah, I’m completely in love with my HTPC setup at the moment. ^_^

I prefer this over a bunch of boxes with limited functionality. If you are looking for a way to watch Blurays, DVD, fansubs and what not or for a cheap PC for daily computing tasks I can highly recommend Zotac’s ION series. You could even play some newer games, not at highest settings of course. The fan should be replaced though if you want a silent system but everything else works out of the box.

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  1. February 5th, 2010 at 18:44 | #1

    lol. Extra PC for only watching XD -_- Kinda… fail.

    I’m watching all those Animes on my HDTV too. Ok, it’s not an 1080p, but 32″ is enough for my room.
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  2. February 5th, 2010 at 18:50 | #2

    if you put one of distribution linux you will see the difference of performance.
    love your config especially the Motherboard , for HDD I know why u put a 5400 in in the place of a 7200 if you don’t search potency !!

  3. AsakuraSan
    February 5th, 2010 at 18:55 | #3

    sweet thats all I can say

  4. February 5th, 2010 at 19:07 | #4

    @GREW
    Ährm, what? Why fail ? Never heard about HTPCs? Is a 300€ Bluray player for “just watching” better or what?
    You are watching all those anime on your TV too but it is in the same room as your main system after all.

    @Hamza505
    Hm, nope no Linux for me, not my cup of tea. Does Bluray playback work on Linux btw?
    And yah the HDD is 5400rpm-7200rpm depending on the need.

    @AsakuraSan
    Thanks, I couldn’t agree more. \o/

  5. Quinto
    February 5th, 2010 at 19:33 | #5

    Well, with just putting my pc to the TV i get the same effect.
    I can easily switch between pc monitoré and TV without any loss of quality or else.

  6. February 5th, 2010 at 20:48 | #6

    Was hat’s denn jetzt insgesamt gekostet? Oder steht das im Post und ich habs überlesen :/
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  7. February 5th, 2010 at 21:59 | #7

    @knuspermagier
    Nö, hab ich nicht erwähnt. ^^;
    Mit Versand, 2. RAM Riegel usw jetzt so um die 450€. Es würde etwas billiger gehn aber naja, jetzt auch schon egal.

  8. battlecamel
    February 5th, 2010 at 22:32 | #8

    You know, you could also buy a Mac Mini and…*ow ow ow*
    OK, admitted: Your setup is cheaper and – when it comes to playing HD material – probably more powerful than the shrunk Apple.

    I, however, prefer the “not-so-fat-cat” solution another guy proposed here: 10m HDMI cable. CUDA also works with a Geforce 285 ;)

  9. February 5th, 2010 at 23:38 | #9

    @battlecamel
    Mac Mini: cheapest version: 549€, no HDMI, no Bluray drive, only 160GB HDD –> Apple shit
    Does CUDA work on a Mac Mini? Usually you would need a graphics card with 512MB memory.
    I think 10m wouldn’t be enough, 20m would be more like it. ^_^

  10. February 5th, 2010 at 23:42 | #10

    Nice setup! Like LianLi’s cases and that PC-Q07 looks like a nice mini-ITX case, geared towards performance Mini-ITX systems from the looks of it as it’s one of the only Mini-ITX cases I’ve seen with room for a normal ATX power supply. Though can see it also has a few drawbacks, but that’s normal, every Mini-ITX case has to make some sort of compromises.

    Nice GITS BluRay set! Would love to upgrade to an HD LEDLCDtv myself but will wait as my current LCDtv still works fine.
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  11. battlecamel
    February 6th, 2010 at 11:55 | #12

    RE Cuda: I never tried anything CUDA-esque on a Mac and I doubt I ever will. I still do own a Mini, just to peek into OSX / Cocoa development from time to time.
    But given that consumer app production is not my cup of tea and profession, I am going to sell the last fruit-branded computer of my collection very soon.

    As for my main rig w/ 10m cable: My GFX adaptor has 1Gig memory, so CUDA won’t be a problem. Never used it, though: a) I do not have a lot of 1080p fansubs (is it allowed to still call HD anime “fansubs”…) and b) machine’s raw processing power is sufficient for video decoding.
    I do have to admit that the machine’s cooling fans are a bit annoying, though. Have to work on that some time.

  12. February 6th, 2010 at 15:00 | #13

    @hamza505
    Yah, looks like it. With Windows it’s a little bit more comfortable. ^^

    @battlecamel
    Looked it up, and CUDA is available for Mac, should even work on a Mini. Maybe they modified it cause Apple machines usually have crap graphic cards? They use the Geforce 9400 and GT120 though which means VP3 and VP4 while my main systems 8800 GTS 512 is only VP2.
    Yah, raw processing power would be sufficient on my main system too, but still: DXVA and CoreAVC are better. There are vids out there which work only with Nvidia GPUs and only on Vista and Windows 7 (unless you use CoreAVC on XP)for example: Test this clip on your system: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/442922/1080p%20sample/Planet_Earth_From%20Pole_to_Pole_1080p_sample_16ref.mkv
    Smooth playback get?

  13. February 8th, 2010 at 00:51 | #14

    Nice system build! Looks really compact HTPC~ I need to do a few more things to upgrade my LAN and add gigabit ethernet and what not still~
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  14. asdato
    February 8th, 2010 at 20:14 | #15

    I’m a little bit confused: Does DXVA also use CUDA?

  15. battlecamel
    February 8th, 2010 at 20:26 | #16

    … OK, I am buying that Core Codec!

    (btw: The Planet Earth Bluray is awesome! And cheap, too – at amazon UK)

  16. February 10th, 2010 at 16:08 | #17

    @asdato
    Yes, it does. That’s why those Atom system are advertised as 1080p capable.

    @battlecamel
    Hehe, but looks like you didn’t buy it via that link above…

  17. battlecamel
    February 12th, 2010 at 00:33 | #18

    I am, uh, still testing it ;)
    But it does look promising. I will make sure using your affiliate link, don’t worry ;)

  18. February 12th, 2010 at 05:41 | #19

    Looks like a lot of fun. It has been a while since I have built a computer (seems to be easier and cheaper to buy built, at least for my needs.
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  19. February 13th, 2010 at 06:44 | #20

    Good stuff. Currently my computer sits close enough to my TV so I can just run HDMI to it. Though I’ll be looking into getting one of these when that is no longer the case.

  20. February 15th, 2010 at 15:01 | #21

    awesome! The last time I tried to build a PC from scratch it took over a year and almost ended in disaster -_-
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  21. February 17th, 2010 at 13:33 | #22

    @battlecamel
    Ok, thanks. ^_^

    @Japanese Phrases
    Usually it’s not cheaper, sometimes you’ll find good deals but I prefer to choose every component in my systems.

    @Jamaipanese
    Over a year? How did this happen? ^^;

  1. February 18th, 2010 at 18:32 | #1
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